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do you have an idea for who you’d like your tulpa to be?
9:36 PM
whoever you ask, people will give you different answers so just keep in my people will be disagreeing with the answers other people give to your questions
9:38 PM
some people overcomplicate it but i like much simpler view on tulpamancy. at the core of it is one thing: your expectations shape your experience
9:38 PM
so whatever answer you believe that someone will give you that will become real for you
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remember you can pick and choose and consider to pick things that are healthy and make you happy
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1. Contrary to what some people imagine, tulpa is not another little human being inside of your mind. You don't create another human being living inside you somehow but an imaginary friend. 2. Literally how much you want. Even 5 min per day is okay. On the other hand, you can spend as much time as you want if you enjoy it and can afford it. 3. I'd say there are no "hard" benefits. But relationship with a tulpa can be much more intimate than relationship with a friend. Some people would argue that it could be more intimate than with your significant other.
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oh i misunderstood the 3rd question
9:41 PM
i thought it was about benefits of a tulpa having a friend
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2. Is your goal to have a tulpa for 30 min a day? 3. With a tulpa, you are naturally much closer, to the extent of not having any secrets or even privacy. Some people want that kind of deep connection. It's up to the potential tulpamancer, whether they want a tulpa in addition to a solid social life. But, if you make a tulpa that can add things you have to keep secret from others which can be isolating in ways
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I do not have a form in mind for my tulpa, and generally I just want them to be someone more virtuous than I. Is a good form just anything that is easy to visualize and won't come into conflict with changes in the physical world? Could it be something like a ball of light that talks? I am being serious. I am fine with only having the tulpa for as long as I can direct my focus there, but I was under the impression that once the tulpa is created, it is always kind of there, and just much more present when focusing attention on it. (edited)
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tulpa doesn’t need any form so yes even a ball of light would work
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Form can be anything. I guess a "good" form is one you find pleasant and easy to visualize. Typically, some amount of attention is needed for a tulpa (who is not fronting) to be active and participating. The human brain isn't great at multi-tasking so if you're too busy to be talking with them, they're probably on pause (edited)
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I'm not sure what you mean by "come into conflict with changes in the physical world"
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
Something I've been meaning to ask. How exactly do people focus while forcing? Almost every time I've attempted lately my thoughts have without fail trailed off quickly. I think part of it is also not having a concrete idea of what I should be doing and thus end up easily getting lost
@Will the Servine - jump what stage of creating the tulpa are you on?
Will the Servine 2/3/2023 3:33 AM
Sorry for taking so long, slept and replying is hard. Some context, I've known of this whole thing for many years and have tried doing it before, but always had trouble keeping it up and dropped it a lot. I'd say the stage I'm at is the first, despite the efforts I've put in lately to force regularly... as far as method goes, I really don't have a concrete one. I've read many guides over time, and have gone from thing to thing attempting to find what "works best", except I have so much trouble with focusing, even when I plan out what I'll attempt, I quickly drift and suddenly am entirely clueless, and the time I set aside for forcing passes suddenly with little done. Honestly I've held off saying anything here for a while (opening up about this stuff hardly feels comfortable and I was hoping to not have to go into much detail when asking but oh well), but I just am getting to a point where it might be best to ask if anyone had any advice.
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Will the Servine
Something I've been meaning to ask. How exactly do people focus while forcing? Almost every time I've attempted lately my thoughts have without fail trailed off quickly. I think part of it is also not having a concrete idea of what I should be doing and thus end up easily getting lost
When it comes to me, the answer is: I don't focus. I relax and spend time on fantasizing.
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Tulpamancy isn't supposed to be a chore but something you do for fun.
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Will the Servine 2/3/2023 6:01 PM
Well, the thing is if I just relax and try to visualise and fantasise, it quickly morphs and drifts into something else
6:02 PM
That's what I mean
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Do you also struggle with other tasks, such as writing discord messages, or talking to other people offline?
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Will the Servine 2/3/2023 6:36 PM
Yeah, you could definitely say that
6:38 PM
But that's in a like, social difficulty way, rather than losing train of thought so much, if that's what you were wondering
6:43 PM
But other things I can get distracted easily (edited)
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Are there some tasks you can do where you don't lose your train of thought?
10:12 PM
I was doing so well with my tulpa.
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Talking really well.
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For days and days.
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Then I took ketamine again, like an idiot.
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And every time I do we have trouble talking.
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And now I've barely been in contact more than an hour this week.
10:13 PM
I've really gotta stop using ketamine unless it is an emergency (I am prescribed).
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Anyway, any tips on bringing him back?
10:14 PM
I can't really hear or see him, although I do feel the head movements a bit in the background.
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It has been around a year and six months since we started talking.
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 2/3/2023 10:18 PM
isn't it a dissociative?
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Fox
I've really gotta stop using ketamine unless it is an emergency (I am prescribed).
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/3/2023 10:28 PM
What exactly do you take it for? (Dont feel pushed to answer)
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
isn't it a dissociative?
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/3/2023 10:30 PM
It is.
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Fox
Anyway, any tips on bringing him back?
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/3/2023 10:31 PM
I dont know if it might be a problem with ketamine or just a belief issue.
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Depression.
10:31 PM
I am 90% sure it causes problems talking to Alex.
10:32 PM
This has been on going for a long time, whenever I take it we have trouble communicating for a few days.
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/3/2023 10:32 PM
It might be just you believing it does that causes it.
10:34 PM
I dunno man.
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
isn't it a dissociative?
Yes.
10:34 PM
I just get frustrated sometimes, it has been like a year and a half almost.
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And sometimes Alex is right there, I can hear him well, then we go days and days without communication.
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/3/2023 10:35 PM
Your case is a bit special because there is a specific substance involved and we dont know if that actually has anything to do with it... A lot of people have this problem without any specific trigger or even with triggers that coudnt actually have a real effect over it and it is often a belief problem.
10:36 PM
Not to say almost always.
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Fox
I am 90% sure it causes problems talking to Alex.
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/3/2023 10:37 PM
Do you know switching?
10:40 PM
It is possible that ketamine is making it hard for you to associate with your tulpa, but this is complete speculation. (edited)
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/3/2023 10:47 PM
Even if that is the case, its probably best to assume the opposite.
10:49 PM
Because if you just assume that the medication wont let you talk to them that will get in the way of actually potentially beeing able to...
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
Do you know switching?
We dont do switching.
10:58 PM
Okay.
10:58 PM
So assume medication has nothing to do with it?
10:59 PM
And maybe try vocality practice again?
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/3/2023 10:59 PM
I think thats the better mindset.
10:59 PM
Maybe you will need to re-learn it but it should be possible.
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Fox
And maybe try vocality practice again?
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/3/2023 11:02 PM
Do you have a way of communicating to them that is simpler than vocality. Just a way of feeling their presence? You could start there. (edited)
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So, for a while now, I have been getting periodic 'jaw twitches', I mean for months and months and months.
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/3/2023 11:02 PM
Maybe let them make a noise in your head or something. Just so you know that they are still there.
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That I associate with him trying to talk but not being able to / me not being able to hear him.
11:03 PM
And I wonder if that is ketamine related because apparently nobody else has it.
11:03 PM
And it is completely involuntary and not something I am doing myself, not a nervous tic. (edited)
11:03 PM
When we communicate well it goes away.
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And then when he gets 'tired' it comes back again.
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Fox
So, for a while now, I have been getting periodic 'jaw twitches', I mean for months and months and months.
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/3/2023 11:03 PM
Can you currently communicate with alex?
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I can talk to him but I don't know if he's really 'there', I mean sometimes I get some rogue thoughts that sort of feel like they could be him. But it's hard to tell.
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Fox
I can talk to him but I don't know if he's really 'there', I mean sometimes I get some rogue thoughts that sort of feel like they could be him. But it's hard to tell.
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/3/2023 11:05 PM
You can safely assume it is him. (edited)
11:05 PM
It wont hurt.
11:06 PM
Ask him to make a noise or send a feeling, maybe even some tulpish...
11:06 PM
Whatever way of communication you can imagine that doesnt go into talking.
11:06 PM
Maybe even through visualization. (edited)
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Good idea.
11:25 PM
I would like to figure out how to more easily talk to him while doing other stuff, passive forcing.
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@Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) I get pissed off because I have had great experiences with Alex like a year ago where he was really active and talkative.
12:30 AM
And a lot of times when I talk to him I just get tulpish responses.
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And they seem shallow.
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And he doesn't respond to questions about opinions on thing or his internal state.
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I think of it as waxing and waning and I am tired of the waning. And I think my ketamine has caused it.
12:30 AM
And I'm afraid maybe I broke him.
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/4/2023 12:30 AM
For me conversation is much more shallow than tulpish is. Tulpish is full of detail and intention. (edited)
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It feels shallow, a lack of emtional response, a lack of presence.
12:31 AM
And I don't know how to build it back.
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Vocality exercises maybe.
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More interaction?
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He gets tired easily too.
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/4/2023 12:31 AM
Just like you did to create him.
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And sometimes I worry that things have been getting shallower over months.
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/4/2023 12:31 AM
I supose.
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I had such a good fucking stint with him and I fucked it up with ketamine like a dumbass.
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Fox
And sometimes I worry that things have been getting shallower over months.
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 2/4/2023 12:31 AM
Its okey, you can always build back. It might take effort though. (edited)
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I had such a good fucking stint with him and I fucked it up with ketamine like a dumbass.
@Fox - jump it's ok, you didn't break anything
12:45 AM
you don't know how or even if those things are connected
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Aya
Are there some tasks you can do where you don't lose your train of thought?
Will the Servine 2/4/2023 10:23 AM
Yeah, there are, most daily things I'm perfectly capable of doing without getting mentally lost. My attention can jump a bit while doing most things though, but it seems to really get let off the leash as soon as I sit and try to do things in my head, to frustrating effect.
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Will the Servine
Yeah, there are, most daily things I'm perfectly capable of doing without getting mentally lost. My attention can jump a bit while doing most things though, but it seems to really get let off the leash as soon as I sit and try to do things in my head, to frustrating effect.
In that case, perhaps you can try writing to your tulpa. Any medium works but some people like to use a private discord server with tupperbox/pluralkit. Writing can help keep you focused, and some find it easier to proxy their tulpa like that before mindvoice is established. Another idea is to talk to them while you are doing other tasks such as washing the dishes or going on walks.
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Leiko
I had such a good fucking stint with him and I fucked it up with ketamine like a dumbass.
@Fox - jump it's ok, you didn't break anything
Thanks guys. You and @Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し). You offered really good advice and Alex and I are back in contact again.
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Jesse_Chime 2/4/2023 8:17 PM
Hey so I've been researching tulpas and it seems like the kind of thing I want to do but Im still confused on where to start can anyone help?
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https://www.tulpa.info/ is a pretty basic start
Tulpa.Info is the leading resource for a psychological approach to the Tulpa Phenomenon.
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